Investigation

Hi everybody!

I am a Dutch Student currently in Mexico City to investigate the Mexican offshore industry. This research is part of an international business research project issued by my unversity in the Netherlands. I have to identify the mexican market of ship building and repairment including the Mexican Navy. However, I find it very hard to find some information about the ship manufacturing for the Navy. Are for instance the Holzinger Class, Sierra class, Durango class and Oaxaca Class build by another company or by the navy itself? And what kind of equipment (engines, screws, etc) is used for those ships and who maintance it?

For me it is really hard to find anything about this subject and was hoping that you guys could perhaps share your knowledge since everybody here seems to know much more about the Navy than I do!

Thanks for any help you guys can give me!

Mi español no es tan grande, así que traté de hacer una trnaslation con Google Translate;

Hola a todos!

Soy una estudiante holandesa actualmente en la Ciudad de México para investigar la industria costa afuera de México. Esta investigación es parte de un proyecto empresarial de investigación internacional emitida por mi unversity en los Países Bajos. Tengo que identificar el mercado mexicano de la construcción naval y reparacion incluyendo la Armada de México. Sin embargo, me resulta muy difícil encontrar alguna información sobre la fabricación de buques para la Armada. Si, por ejemplo, la clase Clase Holzinger, Sierra, clase Durango y Clase Oaxaca construir por otra empresa o por la propia Marina? ¿Y qué clase de equipo (motores, tornillos, etc) se utiliza para dichos buques y que el mantenimiento es así?

Para mí es realmente difícil encontrar algo sobre este tema y se espera que los chicos que tal vez podría compartir su conocimiento ya que aquí todo el mundo parece saber mucho más acerca de la Armada que yo!

Gracias por cualquier ayuda que me puedan dar!

La Clase Sierra, Durango y Oaxaca, son diseños nacionales.
Los sistemas de controlador de tiro y algunos radares son mexicanos.
Los sistemas de armas y otros radares son extranjeros.

El mantenimiento se les da en los astilleros de la Armada.

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Class Sierra, Durango and Oaxaca, are national designs.
The fire control systems and some radars are Mexican.
The other weapon systems and radars are foreigners.

Maintenance are given in the shipyards of the Navy.

El_Hunter_JxG escribió:La Clase Sierra, Durango y Oaxaca, son diseños nacionales.
Los sistemas de controlador de tiro y algunos radares son mexicanos.
Los sistemas de armas y otros radares son extranjeros.

El mantenimiento se les da en los astilleros de la Armada.

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Class Sierra, Durango and Oaxaca, are national designs.
The fire control systems and some radars are Mexican.
The other weapon systems and radars are foreigners.

Maintenance are given in the shipyards of the Navy.

Gracias Hunter!

¿Usted también saber si estas naves son construidas por la propia Armada o por otra persona? Y que ofrece cosas como los motores y los tornillos? Tal vez las empresas como Caterpillar o GM?

If the hull as it meets the shell is manufactured by the Mexican Navy.
Regarding the motor here is the information:
2 x Caterpillar 3916 V16 Diesel, 2 props

¿También saben por qué el uso de Caterpillar? ¿Es esto a través de un contrato o algo así?
¿Y ustedes saben cuáles son los planes futuros para la marina? ¿Van a construir un buque más?

Dutch Student escribió:¿También saben por qué el uso de Caterpillar? ¿Es esto a través de un contrato o algo así?
¿Y ustedes saben cuáles son los planes futuros para la marina? ¿Van a construir un buque más?

Bueno , los ultimos años la Marina ha tenido mucha cooperacion con EU y las compañias americanas " huelen " algo a dinero y pelean por el , la otra razon es que hay mucho equipo Caterpillar en Mexico ( aunque principalmente terrestre ) tal vez eso simplifique las refacciones y abarate costos comparado con los MTU por ejemplo.

mossad escribió:

Dutch Student escribió:¿También saben por qué el uso de Caterpillar? ¿Es esto a través de un contrato o algo así?
¿Y ustedes saben cuáles son los planes futuros para la marina? ¿Van a construir un buque más?

Bueno , los ultimos años la Marina ha tenido mucha cooperacion con EU y las compañias americanas " huelen " algo a dinero y pelean por el , la otra razon es que hay mucho equipo Caterpillar en Mexico ( aunque principalmente terrestre ) tal vez eso simplifique las refacciones y abarate costos comparado con los MTU por ejemplo.

Así que todos los buques de la marina nuevo se hizo con el equipo de la oruga? ¿O es que este trabajo de otra manera? En los Países Bajos, me podía imaginar que la Armada y la oruga usaría somekind de contrato a largo plazo para todos los buques. ¿Es lo mismo aquí? ¿Y qué MTU todavía lo hacen para la marina, entonces?

My friend, i suggest you to head over [Tienes que estar registrado y conectado para ver este vínculo] and look for a member called AFT2001. He's got plenty of technical information about our ships, and is one of most educated individuals I' ve ever met in Mexican ship-building

Lanceros de Toluca escribió:My friend, i suggest you to head over [Tienes que estar registrado y conectado para ver este vínculo] and look for a member called AFT2001. He's got plenty of technical information about our ships, and is one of most educated individuals I' ve ever met in Mexican ship-building

Muchos Gracias!!!
I will try that as well!!!

It won't be an easy task, but if you ask the right person (AFT2001) surely you will find the info you need. Mexican Navy and Army are very relentless to disclose any technical information but after a brief chat with that guy I.m pretty sure you will find the answers to your questions.

Also look for Falcon6 at [Tienes que estar registrado y conectado para ver este vínculo] he can also help in case you need access to the Ministery.

Kind Regards.

Good luck!!!

gigarange escribió:It won't be an easy task, but if you ask the right person (AFT2001) surely you will find the info you need. Mexican Navy and Army are very relentless to disclose any technical information but after a brief chat with that guy I.m pretty sure you will find the answers to your questions.

Also look for Falcon6 at [Tienes que estar registrado y conectado para ver este vínculo] he can also help in case you need access to the Ministery.

Kind Regards.

Good luck!!!

Ok, I tried both of them and see what I can find. Thanks very much for your help!

You welcome, we are hoping to hear from your research

Will do!

Any news by the way?

Tell us about your school, that town is, what is your career, and that the study of the Mexican market.

hablanos de tu escuela, en que ciudad se encuentra, cual es tu carrera, y por que el estudio del mercado mexicano.

Sure!
I am a student at the university of Groningen in the Netherlands. I do a master in Business Administration with a specialisation in Operations & Supply Chains, which means that my study focuses on the more technical companies. Currently i have finished all my courses and only have to do my thesis report which will take approx. 6 months. The research i am currently doing is extra and not part of my normal program. It is just to gain experience with doing research and ofcourse to have a great time in Mexico!

Because of te technical background, my research is aimed at the technical companies/markets. Before I began with this, it was presumed that the ship building and ship repairment industry would be quite big because of all the offshore (oil) industry in the gulf. However it seems that this is not really the case.
The research part that i am currently focuses on is trying to find out which ship owners use which engines and propellers and why. Basically I would like a list of all the ships in Mexico (not only the ones under Mexican flag but also others that are active) and what kind of engines and propellers they. After that i can look for the reasons why they use these kinds. The focus in this is mainly on the propellers itself, but because there is in many cases a strong relation to the brand of the engine, I also focus a little bit on that.
The purpose of the research is to identify which players (companies) are active on the market and why they have a marketshare. Is it because of contracts? Distributors? Better performance? Marketing? With this information I would like to conclude what a company should do to get more sales and or market.

The information of the private companies is not very hard to find, but the navy really is and since the are one of the largest ship owners in Mexico, I really want to include them in my research!

Dear all,

After today, my research period is finished and i will go travelling in central America for 5 weeks. After that I will finish the report back in Holland again so I wont have much online time the coming weeks. But at the end of July I will be back!

I would like to thank you all very much for your time and effort. You have really been helpful!

Best regards,

Dutch Student

Hey Dutch are you coming back to Mexico City? Perhaps we can have a little chat. And also guide you through the city, anyway, I hope we could have been of help for you.
Also, if you happen to publish your research, please send us a copy of it!